User_talk: Rockmonkey4004

On 08:09, 23 December 2007

CalCal said:

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On 03:40, 24 December 2007

LuckyBearLuckyBear said:

Hi Rockmonkey4004,

Thanks for joining the wikiHow community. Since you're new, you might want to take the wikiHow tour to learn about how things work around here.

Please leave a message on my talk page, by clicking the link below, if I can help you with anything on wikiHow!

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On 06:27, 27 December 2007

KalsikumKals said:

Thank you very much for patrolling recent changes. I thought the message below will help you in patrolling. =)

Thanks for helping out on Recent Changes Patrol!

Patrolling is wikiHow's first line of Quality Control, and it's awesome you want to lend a hand! There's a lot to learn when you start patrolling, but a few guides can help:

How to Patrol Recent Changes
Interactive RCP Tutorial
How to Do a Manual Revert
Expert Tips & Advice on Patrolling

Some Patrolling Basics to Get You Started:

  • Article edits: If they're accurate and helpful additions, hit Mark as Patrolled. If they're vandalism or involve unnecessary inclusions of brand names or external links, hit Rollback. If they are helpful but are not in wikiHow style or format, or the edit contains mistakes, do a Quick Edit to fix the change.
  • Articles needing lots of help: If you come across an article with many mistakes, you can use Quick Edit to fix them up, or add templates for further editing. If you're not sure what needs fixing, just go ahead and skip it so someone else can add any necessary templates.
  • Talk pages: Generally, messages between talk pages that aren't vandalism or abuse are fine, too. You can mark them as patrolled, most of the time.
  • Discussion pages: Generally, most comments here are fine to patrol, but if you see obvious or repeat spamming, abusive or offensive content, you can remove it.
  • User pages: Most edits here are okay. Only rollback or question the edit if it's clearly vandalism by another editor or contains abusive content.

If you have questions, just let me know, or you can ask the Help Team. Thanks for helping out!

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On 06:55, 27 December 2007

KalsikumKals said:

Thank you for removing spam from discussion pages.

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On 07:52, December 27, 2007

Brandon-W.Brandon W. said:

Hey, Thanks for contributing your personal time to make Wikihow the best it can be.

I Started a Userpage for you, if you don't like it or want to make it better please do read How To Make a wikiHow User Page.

Brandon W.

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On 15:52, 27 December 2007

JackHerrickJack H said:

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Thanks for riding along on patrol today!

On 05:28, 28 December 2007

D-raeD rae said:

Beat me to the NFD, my dear ;D Nice patrolling, you're doing great!

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On 06:54, December 28, 2007

ChoicefreshChoicefresh said:

Why did you create an NFD'd page? (Maybe you edited it after it was deleted?)

On 06:58, December 28, 2007

ChoicefreshChoicefresh said:

The anon who posted on my talk page about the devil was referring to this.

On 03:49, 29 December 2007

KnowItSomeKnowItSome said:

Thanks for your admin notice board mention of the contribs of In this case, I am only seeing two edits total, both of a somewhat minor vandalous nature. Best thing to do here might be to simply drop a warning on the talk page of that person....

If the problem persists, then we will have a record of the warning on that talkpage and can take stronger action if necessary. Please let me know if you think I am missing something.

On 06:14, 29 December 2007

JackHerrickJack H said:

Thanks for your continuing work on Recent Changes.

On 23:02, 29 December 2007

FlicketyFlickety said:

On 03:04, January 1, 2008

ChoicefreshChoicefresh said:

When reporting to the Admin Notice Board, make sure you follow the instructions:

- Be sure to visit the help page for more information. - Example: {{userlinks||Spam.}} ~~~~ - Don't forget to sign your name using ~~~~ ! - PLACE REPORTS BELOW THE ARROW.}}

On 03:32, 1 January 2008

SockpuppetSockpuppet said:

Hi, Rockmonkey, I never saw anyone tag a discussion page with a speedy (or any other nfd...). I edited out the spam link, but don't have a clue about the speedy tag.. Bob

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On 07:14, 5 January 2008

JackHerrickJack H said:

Great work on RC patrol. Many thanks for tidying up the pages you find! You certainly make them look much better.

On 04:45, January 22, 2008

TuggingHeartstringsTuggingHeartstrings said:

Hey, I noticed your name pop up plenty of times while I was RCing and your doing a great job patrolling.

I know this is about 4 weeks late, but welcome to wikiHow! You're doing a pretty amazing job here!

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On 00:36, January 23, 2008

TuggingHeartstringsTuggingHeartstrings said:

If you catch someone vandalizing/spamming or whatever a page and you have to roll it back while on patrol, make sure you go to the vandals talk page and type: {{warning}}

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On 04:50, January 24, 2008

Cipher_nemoCipher_nemo said:

You are certainly free to edit your own user talk page, but after you removed my messages, I noticed you have a habit of doing this with any message in which you don't agree. This is a wiki and removing/deleting content is not helpful to our community and how-to manual unless it is against our policies.

On 04:54, 24 January 2008

JackHerrickJack H said:


Thank you very much for patrolling recent changes. It is one of the best things any wikiHow editor can do. Unfortunately, I noticed that in your rush to patrol pages, you patrolled as OK this vandalism on today's featured article. Oops! When in doubt on RC patrol, please press "skip" . More info available at how to Patrol Recent Changes on wikiHow.

Thanks again for patrolling RC. These sort of mistakes are easy to make. All of us made similar mistakes when we were starting out here too. Don't get discouraged though! Keep at it!

On 04:54, January 24, 2008

Cipher_nemoCipher_nemo said:

No problem, that mistake is easy to make. Thanks for patrolling.

On 01:59, January 27, 2008

Eric-WFreunde said:

Hello, you recently advised a user named "" that their name is a violation of our user name policy, however, it is not and people can have their name be a URL.

On 23:10, 2 February 2008

Julia-MaureenJulia Maureen said:

In regard to Be a Scientologist.. You tagged it for deletion, which was right, but you tagged it for speedy deletion.. In this case, that is not right. Though it is quite certantly a joke, and insulting, it was not speedy deletion criteria. We try and limit speedy deletion to gibberish, articles that are insulting to one specific person, blank, and the such. Just insulting articles we simply NFD. In this case, the profanity could be removed while waiting for the article to be deleted. Since we only have so many administrators, we're trying to tone down the use of the speedy tag.

On 16:58, 3 February 2008 said:

Sorry,but I'm not exactly sure what u're talking about. My article was on duck whistling.

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On 01:39, 5 February 2008

SudoKingSudoKing said:

When you see articles, like that, feel free to {{speedy|date=2008-02-05}} them

On 01:41, 5 February 2008

SudoKingSudoKing said:

Sorry, I messed up with the formatting. Refresh your talk page.

On 01:43, 5 February 2008

SudoKingSudoKing said:

That one did meet speedy deletion criteria. It had no useful content to save. If it has good content, even if it is biased, simply NFD it if it is worthy so.

On 01:54, 5 February 2008

FehMichael said:

Hi Rockmonkey, May I ask why you did this?. I think we should keep it, because it is helpful to get copyrights so they cant copy you.

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On 03:58, February 5, 2008

ElocinaNicole Willson said:

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A salute for your
random acts of beauty.

Your contributions are appreciated.
Thanks for making wikiHow a special place to be.

Thanks for all your help patrolling today. Seeing your work on the patrol reminds me of why I love patrolling so much.

On 04:04, February 5, 2008

Loiswade42Lois Wade said:

Hi Rockmonkey... Quick question for you... why did you revert [this] edit? Can you enlighten me?

On 04:05, February 5, 2008

ElocinaNicole Willson said:

A word of advice:

When you see an edit like this, the warning/unwanted tags aren't the right tags to send out. Since this person is added a link that violates wikiHow's Sources and Citations policy, you should send them the {{exlinks}} tag instead. Since the text was written as an ad, you could also send the {{commercial}} tag.

On 04:12, February 5, 2008

MelwadeMel said:

When you tag an nfd|dup it would help everyone if you would list the duplicate either in the tag or on the Discuss page. I do it like this {{nfd|dup|see [[Page Title]]}}

On 04:15, February 5, 2008

MelwadeMel said:

This is a good faith edit.

On 04:33, 5 February 2008 said:

sorry, yer i was just testin 2 c if i could accualy post messages on wikihow, it will neva happen again..

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On 04:36, 5 February 2008

JackHerrickJack H said:

Rocky Monkey,

Thanks so much for your work on patrolling! You are doing great. Just wanted to give you some counsel to assume good faith a bit more. Some edits you are flagging for deletion are actually edits left by well meaning people. For example: This page is not a joke. SOme people really do believe you can heal with a chakra. The best thing to do with pages like this is to format them, tidy them up and wait for them to improve with other edits. By deleting them at the front door they never have a chance to develop.

Thanks and keep up the great work on RC patrol!

On 04:37, February 5, 2008

Loiswade42Lois Wade said:

So long as it's not profane, attacking or illegal, it generally stays on discussion pages.

You're getting a bit overzealous with the rollbacks... and on the warnings as well. Take a deep breath... and take a break if you need to... RC can get on your nerves if you're not careful.

If you don't believe me... just take a peek at your contribs... and see how many of your patrols have been rolled back in the last half an hour or so. Other patrollers are rolling you back because you were reverting too much instead of too little.

On 04:48, February 5, 2008

Loiswade42Lois Wade said:

I'm willing to assume that you're doing this in good faith...

Just please... try to assume that the writers whose edits you are patrolling are also doing what they do in good faith and things will work out fine.

On 04:59, February 5, 2008

Loiswade42Lois Wade said:

Thanks. You're doing quite well over all. Thanks for all the help with RC today!

On 06:01, 5 February 2008

JackHerrickJack H said:

Rock Monkey,

I dont want you to think I'm picking on you, but I found another NFD that didn't quite make sense to me. I couldn't find any articles that this was a duplicate of. So I removed the NFD.

Keep in mind that deletion is the last resort we want to use at wikiHow. We should only NFD an article after closely considering all other alternatives to save an article first.

Thanks again for your contributions, hope you stick with wikiHow.

On 18:20, 6 February 2008 said:

Sorry about that.:(

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On 02:17, February 9, 2008

JoManMe said:

If someone posts something with swearing in it, you don't have to roll it back. Just add {{ID}} at the top of the discussion page and mark the edit as patrolled.

On 02:34, February 9, 2008

MelwadeMel said:

I put this back in as it didn't violate any wikiHow policies [Patroll].

Also fwiw, I remove foul language in posts. I will post a standard warning, but do my best not the get into a personalized discussion with the user. Sometimes if the post is good with just one foul word, I'll edit the post and remove just the offending word.

On 02:41, February 9, 2008

MelwadeMel said:

Comments and Talk don't have to make sense to be patrolled. We are not patrolling people intelligence, just if they are following policy.

On 02:47, February 9, 2008

MelwadeMel said:

I think you need to talk with Jack about this. I would suggest posting a question about the topic in the Forum under Village Pump. I'm just passing on what I know.

On 03:26, 9 February 2008 said:

I am sorry. I was testing it to see how it works. Can you please show me around?

Thanks, Annonuymus

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On 03:30, February 9, 2008

Khluvr621Maluniu said:

Hi, I have noticed that you are rolling back warnings and notices on your talk page. Just to assure you that these people have been attempting to help and guide you to understand patrolling recent changes more. You are a great patroller, but you need to learn from their teachings and realize what they are trying to tell you. If you're told to take a break or to go more slowly on RC because of the mistakes, please do so.

Also, please note that ignorance of these notices will result in a ban to give you a break and to let you have some time to understand more of RC patrolling. Thanks

On 03:31, February 9, 2008

MelwadeMel said:

[This] does not warrant a warning...

On 03:32, February 9, 2008

ElocinaNicole Willson said:

Just a reminder to be please careful with the rollback button. Yes, it removes bad edits but it also can remove good edits and bring back other bad ones. For example, a recent revert you did on Stay up 24 Hours or Less made it so caffeine was spelled incorrectly. So just pay attention to detail while patrolling. Thanks!

On 03:38, February 9, 2008

Loiswade42Lois Wade said:

Pssst. One Winged Angel was blanking his/her OWN talk page. That is perfectly acceptable...

On 03:51, February 9, 2008

ElocinaNicole Willson said:

Hi! If you are going to use the nothanks tag, you have to put the name of the article you are writing about. For example:

{{nothanks|.....Cours 101 Sur Les Lois Du Corps}}

On 18:52, February 9, 2008

Khluvr621Maluniu said:

I saw that you put a NFD on here. It's not universally illegal to shake up a soda can.. and it may sound like a joke topic due to the vandalism (if you look in the history page, the article has been here for a few months now).

I reverted your NFD tags, as well as any vandalism to January 7th (the last good faith edit).

On 18:58, February 9, 2008

Khluvr621Maluniu said:

It's ok ;)

On 01:55, 10 February 2008

Julia-MaureenJulia Maureen said:

May I ask why, exactly, you recently created that article "F*** a chick" with a speedy tag?

On 2008-02-10T03:08:43

TxRiskTxRisk said:

You put a FAC tag on How to Spin Bad News. I was the original author, and I appreciate the nomination; thank you. When you put that particular tag on an article it's a little different in that the FAC tag (uniquely) is placed on the discussion page. I feel very strongly that the author should not do anything with FAC tags (or NFD tags) or I would move it myself - if you still feel it deserves a nomination, could you please take a couple of minutes and move the tag to the discussion page? Thanks for the support.

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On 06:14, 10 February 2008

JackHerrickJack H said:

Thanks for your work on RC. :)

On 15:15, 10 February 2008

Julia-MaureenJulia Maureen said:

Hm, that's what I thought, but, strangely, it showed you as being the author when I went to delete it. Oh well, stranger things have happened, just making sure.

On 22:29, February 11, 2008

JoManMe said:

Hey, I see you reverted my tag removal on this article. Just saying that the tag placer did give me permission... if you'd read the edit summary.

On 22:29, February 11, 2008

JoManMe said:

Also, see what I wrote there on the discussion. It should explain the other reason for NFD.

On 22:42, 11 February 2008

Prao98Prao98 said:

im not

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On 23:08, 11 February 2008

JackHerrickJack H said:

Hey Rocky,

THanks again for your work on RC patrol. Just saw this article that I wanted to coach you on

Our standard for NFD is "universally illegal" - meaning things that are illegal in every country of the world. Making a smoke bomb may be illegal in some states, but it is not illegal everywhere on earth. Thus we wouldn't NFD something like this.

Also a good rule of thumb is that if a page is old (eg has been around for more than 1 week) or has more than 100 page views, it is probably not a good candidate for deletion. IN most of those cases lots of people have read the page before and decided not to delete it. Generally NFD should only be placed on brand new articles.

THanks again for listening. And thanks for your work on RC patrol

On 21:08, 13 February 2008

Prao98Prao98 said:


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On 22:53, 26 February 2008 said:

if you had a previous account on wikihow how do you access it?

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On 10:26, 11 April 2008 said:

Why did I get a message this morning saying that a recent edit of mine was not appropriate, or words to that effect? I have never edited a wikihow article in my life. I wrote a message on the discussion board, yes, but there's no way you can pull me up on that. What is a discussion board for, after all, if not to enable discussion? Since all I did was make an entirely relevant comment on the theme of the piece, but never edited the article in question, please explain exactly how my input could be considered "not conducive to the best interests of Wikihow".

Thank you.

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On 11:11, 13 April 2008 said:

I haven't left a comment, edited and article, or gone to the discussion boards in my entire life. I haven't done anything. I think you were mistaken, or must have gotten the I.P. address incorrect. Thank you.

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