User_talk: BR/Archive19

On 14:35, February 12, 2009

Eric-WEric Wester said:

wikiHow Defender
Wow BR, you are a Recent Changes Patrolling animal! You have patrolled over 100,000 edits on wikiHow. I am in awe of all that you do on wikiHow. Thanks for everything that you do here. Eric W 14:35, 12 February 2009 (GMT)

On 17:43, 13 February 2009

RTRT said:

Bob, I'm sad to say I know exactly how you feel. Our prayers are with you. RT

On 20:16, February 13, 2009

HockeyhamsterHockeyhamster said:

Bunny rabbit 4938.jpg

Some bunny loves you!
Happy Valentine's Day!



On 15:48, 14 February 2009

HoneygirlHoneygirl said:

Hey BR!

Great job on your featured article. It is very in-depth and step-by-step.

I am really sorry to hear about your mother, by the way. She did not deserve that at all.


On 22:33, February 14, 2009

Eric-WEric Wester said:

You absolutely deserve that BS (haha - barnstar)! Don't be telling yourself that you don't. I was hesitant to leave that on your talk page, and I apologize if it was too soon, but I hope you are doing well.

On 10:35, 15 February 2009

FlicketyFlickety said:

Ta for that fix. Amazes me how many conversations take place on my talk page without my input.

On 11:04, 15 February 2009

FlicketyFlickety said:

Of course I didn't read it... the first few words and I knew not to bother! Lately there has just been a personal need for routine rhythm in my life; I don't expect this pace will hold up much longer. And how are things with you?

On 01:14, 16 February 2009 said:

Just a suggestion - you might want to clarify whether or not you're Brazilian on your user page; BR is the two digit acronym for Brazil.

On 13:15, 22 February 2009

D-raeD rae said:

Hi there, Bob
Way to tear up RC! Great work, today :)
Hope all is well with you.

On 10:54, 23 February 2009

FlicketyFlickety said:

Thanks Bob, you're very kind, very thoughtful, and very attentive as always. And you already do so much here; everything contribution you make improves the site and we're lucky to have you. Take care of yourself. ~ Flic

On 20:14, February 25, 2009

KrystleKrystle said:

Woohoo! I love my BS! ;-) Thanks for the congrats!

Do tell me what's wrong with this article (everything?).

I got to meet wikiHow people this weekend...why weren't you there??? =(

On 23:51, February 25, 2009

KrystleKrystle said:

Hmmmm. I guess you're going to make me come to Florida to meet you in real life. Then maybe you can teach me how to maintain a tractor, build a house, or something else immensely practical. =)

I'm sorry to hear about your mother...I had no idea. My thoughts are with you and your family. I hope you're getting through it OK.

wikiHow's always here for you (and I come with the package!). I'll take a closer look at the articles that you sprinkled a few grains of salt on...

Again, thoughts and prayers are being bombarded in your direction from Oregon. =)


On 00:00, 26 February 2009

KnowItSomeKnowItSome said:

I have been patrolling and just learned of your loss of your mother. That is always a tough one, no matter the circumstances. I hope you are doing well with it. Just know that you have good friends here to support you when you need it.

On 02:51, 26 February 2009

FlicketyFlickety said:

Goodness me, I didn't know of this sad news either - my deepest condolences and greatest of support Bob. And don't feel you need to do anything here you don't want to. Not that you ever should anyway but please don't feel obliged in any way. Take the best and most gentlest care of yourself. You know the wikiHow community is here for you.

On 14:05, 26 February 2009

MeBluMeBlu said:

BR and Flick?

As you beat around the bush, I gather that there is no discussion limit save implicit common usage about which only you two know and the reading load with which you are able to keep up.

I do no know when they forced you guys and girls to start reading every post, but it was not common, especially with the bull-dog post scanner available. Flick, every wiki generally has not "occured here before," and you can fight all of them; but I advise against it.

And, yes, though Flick claims I have no common sense, I do think that it is appropriate to carry on in such a manner. Do you know what common sense signifies? Look up the words separately.

Also, I've heard no complaints about usability or access from the people that matter, the users who do not have the policing agenda. So the limits of a discussion really depends down to how slothful the patroller, and, maybe, their "common sense."

BR, it sounds like you want to ban everyone who wants to discuss a wikiHow and explain their best way to handle the situation. Next time, maybe you should lookup the definition of soapbox before you put your foot in your mouth.

Since you two claim to review the disscussion, I desire to know what you have learned. What have you learned? Maybe you two can put the several issues to rest and, poof, no more discussion. I deny you actually "review" anything.

Of what "generosity" do you speak Flick? Is it knowledge and learning? Is it trying to lessen your "burdensom" workload which interferes with the plain operation of wikiHow? Maybe if you comprehend what you review, you read, it wouldn't be such an eye sore. Speed reading courses come to mind.

I don't like when admin commits, in the eye of the public, vandalism and act like they owe no explanation as to why; I do like that you two spoke up; I don't like how Flick tryis to blame the public for your inefficiencies; I do like BR saying that patrollers have a hard time reading, which is really the point; I do like Flick's attempt to be polite.

Is it simply the case that archiving is a means to help you know what has been reviewed so that you do not review it again?

That being written, though I don't mind if you band me since it seems wikiHow admins would rather not work than have a wiki, and my work does not help their no work philosophy, I don't mind using archives and reposting the last post.

On 02:36, 27 February 2009 said:

Thanks. I just saw your reply. I did undo the edit because I felt that my contribution was actually useful and helpful. I have used both of those resources recently to find a financial advisor. I noticed the Wiki article when I did the initial search and thought I could contribute as a result.

Potential advisors do need to think about marketing when going into the business and it seemed like a logical extension of the article. Still I respect the fact that everyone is a volunteer here just trying to create a useful non-spammy resource. Do what you think is best but it's probably worth considering that some of the people who see your article will in fact be looking for an advisor. It might be helpful to direct them to a few independant resources.

On 14:05, 27 February 2009

MeBluMeBlu said:

I suppose that there is a policy page; until Admin use it to justify their efforts, then their efforts are perceived as vandalism. I'm sure I'm not the only one objecting to the ghost policing behavior of Admin.

You're correct, the truth is very arrogant and pompous. All you Admin have already shown yourselves to be both. Truth may not put on a Mardi Gras or unnecessarily interrupt the lives of people, but it is there everyday you wake up, even after you pass, it is there. You seem to think that arrogance in the truth is a bad thing. Truth is self-important and preponderant. Unfortuantely for you, I take pride in the truth, and do not settle into the sycophant role.

You are perceptive, reading my posts, I would have never guessed that I had an opinion and that I was testing it with others. You know, now that you mention it, I do want the article to be correct... maybe that is why I discuss. Unlike your friends, I do not rape the wiki and change it to whatever I want without being able to discuss why I am correct. You seem to be the type that falls for the suit and tie, but little substance.

And, with the way the Admin carried on, I would have never thought that they were happy volunteers carrying out policy to which they care not to direct the vanalized. You said I cried, but I still feel harassed. Maybe the Admin need to work on their people and communication skills before they take up dealing with real life rape cases.

As you find the time, you can explain which policies I have disregarded. Boy, am I glad you weren't around when others were raping the wiki; they would have been in big trouble :-) Seeing how you think about civil discussion, maybe not, LOL.

Until I see your list of disregarded policies, I'll presume I acted well in them all with the requisite "self-control needed." And, you talk about community spirit, maybe you should determine what the spirit of the community is, before you try to run everyone off because they don't meet your deficient opinion.

People and communication skills is all wikiPublic asks; or find a life that you don't feel compelled to harass, without explaination, those meeting their expectation of the wiki as being knowledge generating and collaborative.

I can only imagine the look on the face of those who raped this wiki when you put the hammer down with your current set of skills. Pompous and arrogant for sure.

On 19:12, February 27, 2009

SteveconSteve said:

Hi Bob,

I was saddened to just learn of the recent loss of your mother. Please accept my condolences.


On 01:54, 28 February 2009

VkjstoppVkjstopp said:

i'm sorry, I will try to make more serios comments in the future.

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